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Man of the tournament: Habana
John Smit, South Africa's captain said after the match, '3-0 would have done'. Short term, he is absolutely right, but long term the game missed a chance with millions and millions of new viewers tuning in and - in the cold light of day - probably tuning out.
Stuart Barnes
Quotes of the week
No fairy tale end for England; in fact not much of an end for the World Cup.
South Africa had such control at the line out and such confidence in their ability to close England out that any ambition was withheld for fear of giving away an interception, anything that could get England into the game.
It was almost like a football World Cup final, with Italy of old scoring early and then forsaking their flair to trust their defence. John Smit, the captain said after the match, "3-0 would have done." Short term, he is absolutely right, but long term the game missed a chance with millions and millions of new viewers tuning in and - in the cold light of day - probably tuning out.
The line out, like the scrum, is an integral part of the game but when there is so little open play (I include tight forward play as well as flashing backs) union resembles a club for the initiated. There were many uninitiated who will have watched England, admired their bravery and underdog snarl and go back to Arsenal (well if football is your game, Arsenal are surely the only act in town).
England were heroic in their determined fight back but a lack of penetration and attacking skills had to cost them in the end. Their lack of try scoring ability was always going to count against them in the end. It was to their credit they went so far but there are English issues that need resolving.
A national team which develops along structured lines is one of them and Rob Andrew can address that by giving Brian Ashton at least a two-year contract to eke out those skills that are running around beneath the surface.
England's success would rub off on the style of the clubs and if we can maintain a more ambitious club game England will be a tough team to beat.
That is the main issue. Clubs like Bath have shown a transformation from the dour to balanced attack is possible; they are playing some smart stuff under Australian coach, Steve Meehan. It is not a matter of law but philosophy changes; it will come and not just in England.
Take away the term `World Cup' and some of the enthralling latter stage games would have been hard work to watch. But rugby is cyclical. This tournament lacked imaginative rugby from the more successful sides who concentrated on using powerful defence to create broken fields (this plan cost the All Blacks the tournament) but lessons will be learned and the game will turn.
Not pretty but passionate and superbly supported, I defy anyone to say this was not a magnificent tournament even with the lack of ambition in the latter rounds. Fiji played some sublime and winning stuff, Tonga tore at even English heart strings with their tough-touch combination. Georgia - limited in tactics - were huge in heart and then there was Argentina. They set the tone for the tournament on the first night, beating France, and on the penultimate night they thrashed them again for third place.
South Africa deserve to be champions and in Bryan Habana had a player who ignored the tyranny of defences. But Argentina broke the monopoly of the old establishment forever and for that reason are, in many ways, the team of the tournament.
Now let's take a look at your email...
FLOOD WARNING
Stuart, I would like to congratulate you on your expert commentary during the World Cup but I have to take you to task on a comment you made during the final. I was shocked to hear you condone the unprofessional push of Toby Flood on Percy Montgomery. It was a cynical foul in a dangerous position and should in no way be condoned. It could have resulted in a very serious injury to Percy and your applauding of Toby sends out the wrong message to all our young players. Toby knew exactly what he was doing, in a very congested area of the pitch. In my opinion he was extremely lucky not to be carded for that. That aside, I do think you brought an air of professionalism to the commentary team during the World Cup and look forward to hearing more of you over the season ahead. Michael Duckfield.
STUART SAYS: Michael, Thank you for the kind remarks. As for Flood and Montgomery, had the ball stood up and remained within in goal he would have had a legitimate chance of a try. I believe the unfortunate camera position and the television replays worsened the act but the Montgomery failed to react showed nothing malicious was intended. Had I thought otherwise I would not have commented as I did.
FAILING THE FINAL FRENCH TEST
Hi Stuart, I've just watched the France - Argentina game in the company of St. Quentin rugby club (in the South of France). Well done Argentina for winning - we all applauded their handling and finishing skills - very impressive. However, the incompetence of Paul Honiss was shocking. Argentina had a game plan to slow down the French ball and to frustrate them - they succeeded very well in doing both, but only by doing it illegally. Tempers flared and there was a lot of 'afters'. If Paul Honiss had penalised and then sin-binned the Argentinians, that would probably have calmed things down. As it was, there was a return to the bad old days with the French taking the law into their own hands and Ibanez, for whom I have the greatest respect (he is wider than me!), ending up rucking a player in the face (or so it seemed at the time). It was a real shame that the penultimate game of the best World Cup was marred by this. Ben Bourdillon
STUART SAYS: Ben, Do you not think France were out-thought and fought at the breakdown? Argentina were the hungrier and smarter side and I cannot help but wonder if the ill discipline of Ibanez and his team was not symptomatic of a frustration borne out of their flawed campaign and disappointment at the loss to England.
JONNY GO?
Stuart, Well what a great World Cup and hats off to England for getting to the final. They showed they were not going to give their title away without a fight, and what a fight it was! But what now for England? What do you think England should focus on now? Obviously we can start rebuilding for the next World Cup, but what about the shorter-term goals? Are there any changes in the England coaching staff you would like to see? Best, Adam Lewson.
STUART SAYS: Adam, The coaches did a heck of a job getting this team to a World Cup final. The changes that must be made are on the pitch. I am no advocate for 15 fresh faces but a balance between achievement in the World Cup and long term vision for the future must be made. Matthew Tait's growing maturity is a starting point. I also think the overdependence on Jonny Wilkinson must be addressed. He is a magnificent match-winner in tight games but he failed to ignite the backs and an alternative ten would help rid England of their excessive dependence and, frankly, improve Wilkinson himself, who should be no more immune to rival contenders than anyone else. Some of the old guard who performed heroics should also be thanked but cast aside; ie learn from the errors of the last tournament. If Ashton stays at the helm I think the first England 6 Nations selection will be both exciting and successful.
Thanks for your mails as ever, I am taking a week's break in Rome after the World Cup and before the Heineken so I will be back the week after next.
Stuart
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Comments
Tony Moss says...
I think the future for English Rugby is very positive indeed. In terms of the restructure, I would like to see Ashton kept on board but I think he definitley needs a team manager above him. I always thought Warren Gatland would be an exceptional choice, or perhaps there is room for Martin Johnson. He clearly has a brilliant rugby brain and I think would still inspire players and coaches alike. From a players point of view there are some terrific players in the premiership, both young and old and I'm certain they, providing fans and the board expect some failure before sucess, we will go to NZ in 2011 in good shape. Gloucester Harlequins and Sale to name but three teams have some excellent English talent in there ranks and this talent will only increase with the southern hemisphere players coming over.
Posted 14:31 24th October 2007
David James says...
Stuart, if you don't accept that Flood's action was completely out of order, then you probably condone Cueto's 'simulation'. I would suggest that if he wants to do this kind if thing, and this is not the first time, then let him turn to soccer. (Incidentally, Montgomery not reacting to Flood's childish behaviour was a reflection of Percy's maturity, not that of him condoning Flood's action).
Posted 11:51 24th October 2007
Shaun Ryan says...
There was no chance of a try and Montgomery had the ball covered, the push was malicious and dangerous. The fact that Montgomery did not react means nothing, he was not in a position to do so after being clattered into a camera and having the advertising hoarding between him and Flood. Flood's reaction afterwards speaks volumes. All credit to the Bok team that they did not react, Flood may not be so lucky in other international clashes where the stakes are not so high.
Posted 11:48 24th October 2007
Anne Butler says...
Stuart, I note what you say about too much dependence on Wilkinson and his failure to ignite the back line. On the latter point, what about the two bullet passes in the first 10 minutes that encouraged Tait to run? From the second, Tait shipped it to Sackey and England had a penalty on the South African 22. And then, two minutes into the second half when Tait broke clear, Gomersall rushed in with a short-side pass and Wilkinson brilliantly, instinctively, flipped the ball on to Cueto. Those were the ones I saw when I could bear to watch. Bet there were others. A reminder I think that Wilko was not simply capped at 18 for his goal kicking. The man can play. Let's stop knocking him and accept that. Bet anyone else would love to have him.
Posted 17:20 23rd October 2007
Graeme Fleetwood says...
How many finals anywhere end up being try fests? The Poms scored minimal points in their quarter and semi-final games but won both. Isn't that what going to the World cup is all about, winning? Why would you want to score trys and play an open game if you know that your boring forward game will get you through? If you're worried about spectators, have a look at the crowds at the games during the World Cup and the mad scramble to get tickets for the knockout stages. Argentina admittedly played fantastic rugby during the cup but it only go them bronze.
Posted 15:44 23rd October 2007
Warren Newman says...
Boring rugby. I want to agree with you that scoring tries and seeing the ball sent wide is exciting, yet the Boks went there to win the World Cup and not to entertain the English. Surely you were entertained enough when we beat you 36-0. I can not remember anyone saying how boring the 2003 final was. Looks like the English have relied on Jonny for too long. It was sad though that the two young centres from both sides never saw more of the ball.
Posted 12:59 23rd October 2007
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